Slow on the uptake
Sep. 13th, 2004 06:46 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
So I'm sitting here in my office at GA Tech waiting on my workout partner to make it in for our regularly scheduled 7am workout (its 6:35am). I decide to read the local campus newspaper, the Technique for those of you that have never heard of it. And on the front page in the lead position is the an article entitled "Tech self-reports NCAA violations". I'm thinking, well at least we had the integrity to rat ourselves out. The next article below that was "Five thousanda turn out for Six Flags". Its nice to know that a university so hell bent on turning out the best engineers and scientists that the world will ever see can still take some time to offer cheap tickets to one of the worst theme parks in the country. *sigh* So I start scanning the rest of the page to see the little article that invariably make it there but are of little or no consequence.
That's when it hits me: "Clough: tuition may have to rise" and "Student commits suicide in Brown".
I literally shuddered. "Student commits suicide in Brown" . The entire article itself is 2 inches. Two fucking inches .
I did some digging and there was a post about it in the
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Its just sickens me that something as significant as a student losing their life on campus (mind you, she was a freshman and had only been at GA Tech a month ) would get such a cursory mention. I guess its better than it being buried on page 12 or some such but it still feels wrong. Oh don't get me wrong, I know the standard reasons why you do it. Protection of privacy for the student and her family, lack of solid facts at the time of the story publication, etc. But it still feels so insignificant. And I can't help but think that the size of the article represents the amount of concern that Tech has. Its just an article. Its just a newspaper. Its just a brief nod
But it was also a life. And its gone. I didn't know here at all but I still feel diminished by her death.
Elesha Spencer died Wednesday evening at around 6pm from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Rest in peace.
That's when it hits me: "Clough: tuition may have to rise" and "Student commits suicide in Brown".
I literally shuddered. "Student commits suicide in Brown" . The entire article itself is 2 inches. Two fucking inches .
I did some digging and there was a post about it in the
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Its just sickens me that something as significant as a student losing their life on campus (mind you, she was a freshman and had only been at GA Tech a month ) would get such a cursory mention. I guess its better than it being buried on page 12 or some such but it still feels wrong. Oh don't get me wrong, I know the standard reasons why you do it. Protection of privacy for the student and her family, lack of solid facts at the time of the story publication, etc. But it still feels so insignificant. And I can't help but think that the size of the article represents the amount of concern that Tech has. Its just an article. Its just a newspaper. Its just a brief nod
But it was also a life. And its gone. I didn't know here at all but I still feel diminished by her death.
Elesha Spencer died Wednesday evening at around 6pm from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Rest in peace.
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Date: 2004-09-13 06:22 am (UTC)IMHO, Tech really needs to pay better attention to the care of its students.
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Date: 2004-09-13 06:50 am (UTC)This is their introduction to the real world. No one is going to come drag them to class, or make them study, or be waiting with punishment if they stay out to 3am. They need to learn that.
I think the help is there. I don't know if FASET advertises it enough. But, no, running the entirety of Tech thru psych evals every semester is costly, intrusive, and just wrong. The only way these kids are going to learn to take care of themsleves is to expect them to... some don't have it. And there will be one or two that fall thru the cracks completely. But life is like that. And those who remain need to know that....
You cannot protect everyone. That way leads to madness, which I will not go into here. How you deal with what happens when you can't.... is the true measure of character.
We'll see.
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Date: 2004-09-13 07:07 am (UTC)Yes, the help is there, but no one really knows about it.
And I'm not talking about coddling students, but teaching them real life skills so they can survive... there needs to be a first quarter freshman class that addresses all these isseus. At Georgia State it is called GSU 1010, and it does a world of good!
I respect your opinion, though... Tech is not like the average school, and it is tough to survive. i just think Tech needs to remember that they may have the best and brightest, but they are still only 18 years old or so when they start. The success rate could improve *without coddling* if there was a class that simply helped students know what is available to them and teaches life skills.
*plink* *plink*
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Date: 2004-09-13 12:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-13 12:42 pm (UTC)Well, I didn't have to take PSY1010 NOR GSU's class, but I do know that GSU's class was more focused on getting to know the campus, what was available, how to get help, etc.
Now, I guess I am comparing apples to oranges since GSU <> GT, but I think every 18 to 19 yr old has he same concerns when they leave home for the first time.
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Date: 2004-09-14 09:28 am (UTC)Most individuals who are suicidal feel that they are either beyond help or just simply feel that no one would be able to help. This is usually a big reason they are suicidal in the first place. So it is actually a downward spiral that is really difficult to get out of. Yes… psych advisors are available on every campus I’ve ever heard of or been to. And, I had a friend in college who was suicidal. This person would not get help until I basicly dragged them to the counselors.
What am I trying to say? Well… I guess its that 1) most suicidal individuals do not reach out for help, they’d rather just “end it all.” 2) it’s not necessarily this individual’s fault that she didn’t get help. 3) it’s not necessarily the college’s fault she didn’t get help.